6b
{Beitza 14a}
Mishna:
ב"ש אומרים תבלין נדוכין במדוך של עץ והמלח בפך ובעץ הפרור
וב"ה אומרים תבלין נידוכין כדרכן במדוך של אבן והמלח במדוך של עץ
Bet Shammai say: Spices may be crushed {on Yom Tov} with a wooden pestle, and salt in a{n earthenware} flask or a wooden mixing spoon.
And Bet Hillel say: Spices may be crushed in their normal way, with a stone pestle, and salt with a wooden pestle.
Gemara:
אר"י אמר שמואל כל הנידוכין נידוכין כדרכן ואפי' מלח
אמר ליה רב לרב אחא ברדלא כי דייכת אצלי ודוך
והא דרב אוקמוה רבוותא במילחא אבל תבלין לא בעי הצלאה
Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: Anything that is crushed may be crushed in its normal way, and even salt.
Rav said to Rav Acha Bardela {our gemara: Rav Acha Bardela said to his son}: When you crush, lean {the pestle on its side} and crush.
And this of Rav, the post-Talmudic Sages established it as regarding salt, but spices do not require leaning.
ומסתייע הדין סברא מיהא דאמר רב ששת שמע קל בוכנא אמר האי לאו מגו ביתאי הוא ואקשינן ודלמא אצלויי אצלי ודייקי ופריק שמעיה דהוה ציל קליה ודילמא תבלין הוו תבלין נבוחי מנבח קליהו מדקא מקשינן ודילמ' אצלויי אצלו ודייקו ופריק שמעיה דהוה ציל קליה והדר אקשינן ודילמא תבלין הוו שמעינן דתבלין לא בעו הצלאה וממילא שמעינן דהא דאמר רב לרב אחא ברדלא אצלי דוך לענין מלח קאמר ליה אבל תבלין לא בעו הצלאה והכי איפסיקא הילכתא בהלכות פסוקות ובהלכות גדולות
And this understanding is supported by this that it states that Rav Sheshet heard the sound of a {stone} pestle and said "this is not coming from my house." And we ask, perhaps he {whoever was using the pestle} leaned it? And we answer that he heard that its sound was clear {which would not be the case by a leaned pestle}. And perhaps it was spices being crushed? Spices make a loud sound when being crushed.
And from the fact that we ask "perhaps he leaned it" and answer that he {Rav Sheshet} heard that the sound was clear, and we return and ask "and perhaps it was spices," we deduce that spices do not require leaning. And thus, automatically, we derive that this that Rav said to Rav Acha Bardela to "lean and crush" he said in respect to salt, but spices do not require leaning.
And so is the halacha ruled in Halachot Pesukot {by Yehudai Gaon} and Halachot Gedolot {another, anonymous, Geonic work, written by the Behag = Baal Halachot Gedolot - possibly Shimon Kayyara}.
תנו רבנן אין עושין טיסני ואין כותשין במכתשת
ותריצנא הכי קאמר מה טעם אין עושין טיסני לפי שאין כותשין במכתשת
The Sages learnt {in a brayta}: We do not make tisni {wheat kernel grits, on Yom Tov} and we do not crush in a mortar.
And we answer {this apparent contradiction between the reisha and seifa -- that is, if we do not make tisni, we might be able to make other things with a mortar}: This is what it means to say: We do not make tisni because we do not crush in a mortar.
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