Monday, April 04, 2005

Rif Brachot 27a



{Brachot 38a}
This tarita of the ground {that is baked in the ground} we bless on it Borei Minei Mezonot, and if you establish your meal on it {kovea' seuda} you bless on it HaMotzi and Birchat HaMazon.

Mar bar Rav Ashi said: He can fulfill his obligation {ot eating matza} on Pesach with it.
What is the reason? {Dvarim 16:3}

ג לֹא-תֹאכַל עָלָיו חָמֵץ, שִׁבְעַת יָמִים תֹּאכַל-עָלָיו מַצּוֹת לֶחֶם עֹנִי: כִּי בְחִפָּזוֹן, יָצָאתָ מֵאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם--לְמַעַן תִּזְכֹּר אֶת-יוֹם צֵאתְךָ מֵאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם, כֹּל יְמֵי חַיֶּיךָ. 3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for in haste didst thou come forth out of the land of Egypt; that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.
we may designate it.

And Mar bar Rav Ashi said: date-honey, he blesses over it Shehakol.
What is the reason?
Because it is merely moisture {of the tree}.

And dates which are made into trimma {which a bew not as strong as mead} he blesses upon them Borei Peri HaEtz.
What is the reason?
For they are still in their natural state.

Shetita {flour of dried barleycorns mixed with honey} -
Rav said: Shehakol
and Shmuel said: Borei Minei Mezonot.

Rav Chisda said: And they do not argue. This, where it is thick, so that it was made for eating, Borei Minei Mezonot, and this is where it is thin, so that it was made for healing, he blesses Shehakol.

{Brachot 38b}

They learn in the Mishna {via juxtaposition} vegetables are similar to bread. Just as bread is changed via the fire, so too vegetables when they have been changed by fire {=cooked}.

Rabinai cited Abaye: This means to say that over boiled vegetables we say Borei Peri HaAdama.

And we establish like this, for Rav and Shmuel and Rabbi Yochanan all hold that upon boiled vegatables one says Borei Peri HaAdama.

And there is a brayta that also says so:
One may satisfy the requirement {of eating matza} with a wafer which has been soaked, or which has been boiled, provided it has not been dissolved. These are the words of Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Yossi says: One fulfils the requirements with a wafer which has been soaked, but not with one which has been boiled, even though it has not been dissolved.
And Rabbi Yossi only argues on Rabbi Meir in terms of matza, because we need the taste of matza and it is not present, but in general, even Rabbi Yossi agress that boiled things maintain their character, and we bless on them Borei Peri HaAdama, even garlic and leeks {which are usually eaten raw}.

A raw gourd, and beets, and carobs, one blesses on them Shehakol, and when he boils {cooks} them be blesses on them Borei Peri HaAdama, and so too every thing which it is not people's custom to eat it raw, we bless on them Shehakol, and if they are boiled we bless on them Borei Peri HaAdama.

Rabbi Chiyya bar Abba said: I saw Rabbi Yochanan eat a salted olive, and he blessed beforehand and afterwards, and we derive from this that whenever there is an olive's measure

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