Wednesday, May 03, 2006

Rif Pesachim 22b {Pesachim 107a continues; Bava Batra 97a; Bava Batra 95b-96a}


{Pesachim 107a continues}
to bless {birkat haMazon} except on wine, but on beer, no.
And these words are where he did not establish his meal on it, but if he established his meal on it, we have no concern with it.

Rav Huna said, and so did Gidel from Narash teach {a brayta}: One who makes kiddush and tastes a cheekful, he fulfills, and if not, he did not fulfill.
And the cup he tasted with his mouth he cannot use to bless birkat haMazon, nor say upon it kiddush or havdala, for Master said: if he tasted it, he renders it unfit.

We learn in perek HaMocher Peirot leChaveiro {Bava Batra 97a}:
Mar Zutra bar Tovia cited Rav: We do not say kiddush {sanctification} on the day except on wine which is fit to be poured on the altar. To exclude that which has a bad smell and to exclude that which was exposed. And even if he filtered it with a seive, it is still invalid, because {of the verse in Malachi 1:8:
ח וְכִי-תַגִּישׁוּן עִוֵּר לִזְבֹּחַ אֵין רָע, וְכִי תַגִּישׁוּ פִּסֵּחַ וְחֹלֶה אֵין רָע; הַקְרִיבֵהוּ נָא לְפֶחָתֶךָ, הֲיִרְצְךָ אוֹ הֲיִשָּׂא פָנֶיךָ--אָמַר, ה צְבָאוֹת. 8 And when ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it no evil! And when ye offer the lame and sick, is it no evil! Present it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee? or will he accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts.
But wine from his vat, we may make kiddush on it.
For Rabbi Chiyya taught: wine from his vat he should not bring {on the altar} and if he brought it is valid.
And since if it is brought it is valid, we, even ab initio may make kiddush on it.

For {Alternatively, And} Rava said: A man may squeeze a cluster of grapes and say upon it kiddush of the day.
And mixed wine they also consider good, for Rabbi Yossi bar Chanina said: The Sages admit to Rabbi Eliezer regarding the cup of blessing {of birkat haMazon} that one may only bless on it once they put within it water. Therefore we make kiddush on it {mixed wine}.

And wine from the cellar and from raisins one should not bring, and if he brought it, it is valid. And since if he brought it, it is valid, we, even ab initio may bless on it.

However, the {post Talmudic} Rabbis say that not all raisins may one make kiddush over, but rather -- those which are withered on the vine and are not {entirely} dry, and when you press them, moisture exudes from them, these are the ones that you steep them in water and press them, and make kiddush on them. But if when you press them, moisture does not exude from them, we do not make kiddush on them.

And wine which smells like vinegar but which tastes like wine, we make kiddush on it and bless upon it Borei Peri HaGafen.
For we learn in perek haMocher Peirot leChaveiro {Bava Batra 95b}:
Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: Wine which is sold in a store, we bless upon it Borei Peri haGafen. And Rav Chisda said: Of what use to me is wine which is turning sour?
And we say upon this: Abaye said to Rav Yosef: This is Rav Yehuda and this is Rav Chisda. Master {=Rav Yosef}, who does he hold like?
He {Rav Yosef} said to him: I know a brayta.

{Bava Batra 96a}
For they learnt {in a brayta}: If one tested {via tasting, or by smelling} a [wine] jug for the purpose of taking from it terumah, periodically, and afterwards it is found to be vinegar,

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