Tuesday, February 28, 2006

Rif Pesachim 13a {Pesachim 42a continues ... 43a}



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13a

{Pesachim 42a continues}
BEGIN PEREK THREE - VeElu Ovrin

Mishna:
And the following must pass away {or, one violates for owning them - Rashi} on Pesach:
Babylonian kutach, Median beer, Idumean vinegar, Egyptian zitom, dyer's broth {made with bran to keep the dye fast}, cook's dough {placed over the pot to absorb the froth}, scribes' paste {with which strips of parchment are pasted together}. Rabbi Eliezer says: Even women's ornaments.
This is the rule: Anything which is a species of grain one must pass away {or, one violates} on Pesach, they are subject to a "warning" {=a legal term - for which the punishment is lashes}, but they do not involve karet.

Gemara:
This that they learnt in the Mishna "Median beer and Idumean vinegar" -- we are dealing here with when they have in them water, but if there is no water in them, no, for we establish that fruit juice does not cause chimutz.
And in the Yerushalmi they say: "and all of them with water."

"Babylonian kutach {= a type of dip}": on account of the moldy bread which is in it. And it is called kobaz `elbon.

{Pesachim 42b}
"Idomite vinegar": because they put barley in it.

"Egyptian zitom":
Rav Yosef taught {tnei}: It is 1/3 barley, 1/3 wild saffron, and 1/3 salt.

"And dyer's broth":
So did they translate: bran water {used to remove spots on the chest}.

"And cook's dough":
Bread {/dough?} of grain which had not matured 1/3 which they place over they pot so that it absorbs the froth.

"And scribes' paste":
So did they translate: glue. And scribes also paste their sheets together with it.

{Pesachim 43a}
The Sages learnt {in a brayta}: {Shemot 12:20}:

כ כָּל-מַחְמֶצֶת, לֹא תֹאכֵלוּ; בְּכֹל, מוֹשְׁבֹתֵיכֶם, תֹּאכְלוּ, מַצּוֹת
20 Ye shall eat nothing leavened; in all your habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.'
To include Babylonian kutach, Median beer, Idomite vinegar, Egyptian zitom. Perhaps these carry the punishment of karet? Therefore it teaches us {Shemot 12:15}:
טו שִׁבְעַת יָמִים, מַצּוֹת תֹּאכֵלוּ--אַךְ בַּיּוֹם הָרִאשׁוֹן, תַּשְׁבִּיתוּ שְּׂאֹר מִבָּתֵּיכֶם: כִּי כָּל-אֹכֵל חָמֵץ, וְנִכְרְתָה הַנֶּפֶשׁ הַהִוא מִיִּשְׂרָאֵל--מִיּוֹם הָרִאשֹׁן, עַד-יוֹם הַשְּׁבִעִי. 15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; howbeit the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses; for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

{Thus,} upon chametz of actual grain he incurs the penalty of karet, but upon its mixture he violates a prohibition {but incurs no karet}. These are the words of Rabbi Eliezer. And the Sages say: upon chametz of actual grain he incurs the penalty of karet, but upon its mixture he incurs nothing.

Even though the Sages said that upon its mixture he incurs nothing, this means they he is not lashed,

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