Saturday, January 14, 2006

Rif Eruvin 34b {Eruvin 102a continues ... 102b}



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34b

{Eruvin 102a continues}
Rabbi Yossi holds that since there was a knob at one end, it has the status of a vessel upon it and it is permitted. And Rabbi Eliezer holds that since it cannot be lifted by its binding, no.

And the halacha is like Rabbi Yossi.

Mishna:
A bolt that is dragged - they may lock with it in the Temple, but not in the country {outside the Temple}; but if it is lying {on the ground} - it is prohibited there and there.
Rabbi Yehuda says: That which lying {is permitted} in the Temple and that which is dragged, in the country.

Gemara:
The Sages learnt {in a brayta}: What is the "bolt that drags" which they may lock with in the Temple but not in the country? That which is fastened and suspended and whose one end touches the ground.
Rabbi Yehuda says: that, even in the country is permitted. Rather, what is the bolt (that drags) that is forbidden in the country? Anything which is not fastened nor suspended but which is removed {from the sockets} and put away in a corner.

Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: The halacha is like Rabbi Yehuda.
Rava said: This is only when it is fastened and suspended to the door. And if it could be lifted by its cord, even if it is not suspended except by the bolt of the door, it is permitted to move, like R' Tavla.

Rabbi Zera inquired: {If the bolt was} pressed {into the ground - that is, it did not merely rest in a socket in the threshold but passed through it down into the ground under it}, what {is the law}?
Rav Yosef asked: what is his question? Did he not hear this that they learnt {in a brayta}: If it was pressed, it is permitted; if is was detached {from the door} it is forbidden? Rabbi Yehuda says: If it was pressed, even though it was not detached, it is forbidden?
And Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: The halacha is like Rabbi Yehuda. {Thus, the answer about "pressed"}

And what is the reason?
Abaye said: Because it looks like {the forbidden Shabbat labor of} building.

And if he made it {=the bolt} a handle it is permitted.

There was a certain beam at the house of Rabbi Pedat which required ten men to lift it to place it at the door. He said: It has the status of a vessel {and so is permitted}.

There was a certain mortar at the house of Mar Shmuel which had the capacity of an adarka which required ten men to lift it to place it at the door. He said: This has the status of a vessel.

{Eruvin 102b}
Mishna:
One may reinsert the lower hinge in the Temple, but not in the country. The upper - there and there it is prohibited.
Rabbi Yehuda says: The upper - in the Temple, and the lower - in the country.

Gemara:
The Sages learnt {in a brayta}: The hinge of the door of a box, a chest, or a turret {closet} in the Temple may be reinserted, while in the country it may only be adjusted {lit. they press down}.
But the upper one {hinge, which requires greater effort} in both instances {Temple and country} he may not reinsert, as a decree lest he drive it into its socket by force, and if he so drove it, he is liable to a sin-offering. Of a cistern, a cellar, or an annex he should not reinsert, and if he reinserted, he is liable to a sin-offering.

Mishna:
One may replace a plaster {on a wound} in the Temple, but not in the country. If for the first time - there and there it is prohibited.
One may tie a cord in the Temple, but not in the country. If for the first time

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