Sunday, September 11, 2005

Rif Shabbat 53a {Shabbat 133b continues ... 134b}



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53a

{Shabbat 133b continues}
The Sages learnt {in a brayta}: The membrum must be trimmed*, and if one does not trim it, he {the mohel} is punished with kareit.

{*: Rashi and Rabbenu Chananel: the shreds which invalidate the circumcision must be removed.}

How so?
Such that he comes {to circumcise} at twilight {on Shabbat} and they told him 'you have no time,' but he insisted, 'I have time.' So he performed it but had not time [to complete it]. Thus the net result is that he [merely] made a wound {on Shabbat - it is not considered circumcision}, hence he is punished with kareit.

"WE SUCK OUT":
Rav Papa said: If a surgeon does not suck [the WOUND], it is dangerous and he is dismissed.

"IF ONE DID NOT CRUSH CUMMIN {ON EREV SHABBAT}":
The Sages learnt {in a brayta}: The things which may not be done for circumcision on Shabbat may be done on Yom Tov: cummin may be crushed, and wine and oil may be beaten up together on its account.

"ONE MAY NOT MAKE A CHALUK FOR IT":
Abaye said: Mother told me: The side-selvedge of an infant's chaluk should be uppermost {that is, not facing the flesh}, lest a thread thereof stick and he [the infant] may become privily mutilated.

They learnt {in a brayta}: Rabbi Natan said: I once visited the Sea-towns {=Tyre, etc.}, and a woman came before me who had circumcised her first son and he had died and her second son and he had died; the third she brought before me. Seeing that he was [too] red I said to her, My daughter, wait until his blood is absorbed. So she waited until his blood was absorbed and [then] circumcised him and he lived; and they called him Natan the Babylonian after my name. On another occasion I visited the Province of Cappadocia, and a woman came before me who had circumcised her first son and he had died and her second son and he had died; the third she brought before me. Seeing that he was green, I examined him and saw no covenant blood in him. {The blood which circumcision causes to flow is so designated. Thus circumcision would be physically dangerous, and furthermore even if performed it would be inadequate, as covenant blood is required.} I said to her, My daughter, wait until he is full-blooded; she waited and [then] circumcised him and he lived, and they called him Nathan the Babylonian, after my name.

{Shabbat 134b}
MISHNA:
WE MAY BATHE THE INFANT BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THE CIRCUMCISION, AND SPRINKLE [WARM WATER] OVER HIM BY HAND BUT NOT WITH A VESSEL.
R. ELEAZAR B. 'AZARIAH SAID: WE MAY BATHE AN INFANT ON THE THIRD DAY [OF CIRCUMCISION] WHICH FALLS ON THE SABBATH, BECAUSE IT IS SAID {in Bereishit 34:25 regarding the men of Shechem who had circumcised themselves}:

כה וַיְהִי בַיּוֹם הַשְּׁלִישִׁי בִּהְיוֹתָם כֹּאֲבִים, וַיִּקְחוּ שְׁנֵי-בְנֵי-יַעֲקֹב שִׁמְעוֹן וְלֵוִי אֲחֵי דִינָה אִישׁ חַרְבּוֹ, וַיָּבֹאוּ עַל-הָעִיר, בֶּטַח; וַיַּהַרְגוּ, כָּל-זָכָר. 25 And it came to pass on the third day, when they were in pain, that two of the sons of Jacob, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brethren, took each man his sword, and came upon the city unawares, and slew all the males.
AS FOR ONE WHO IS DOUBTFUL {=born prematurely, who might be a child of "eight months"}, AND AN HERMAPHRODITE, WE MAY NOT DESECRATE THE SABBATH ON THEIR ACCOUNT;
BUT R. JUDAH PERMITS [IT] IN THE CASE OF AN HERMAPHRODITE.

Gemara:
When Rabin came {from Eretz Yisrael}, he cited Rabbi Abahu who cited Rabbi Eleazer, and some say {our gemara omits this}, he cited Rabbi Yochanan: The halacha is as Rabbi Eleazar ben 'Azariah in respect of both hot water heated on Shabbat and hot water heated on erev Shabbat, whether for the bathing of the whole body or for the bathing of the membrum, because it is dangerous for him.

And the {post-Talmudic} Sages say that the halacha is like Rabbi Eleazar ben 'Azariah on the third day, and certainly on the first day, that they bathe him in the regular manner, whether before the circumcision or after the circumcision,

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