Monday, October 09, 2006

Rif Succah 19b {Succah 38b continues; 39a; 41a - 41b}


{Succah 38b continues}
He says בָּרוּךְ הַבָּא {the first half of a phrase in Tehillim 118:26} and they say בְּשֵׁם ה {the second half of that phrase}. From here that one who hears is like one speaks {עונה - so it is as if he had said the beginning of that phrase}.

They inquired of Rabbi Chanina bar Abba: If he heard but had not said {עונה}, what {is the law}?
He said to him: The sages, the scribes, the heads of the people, the preachers, all have decided that he who has listened, and not answered, has fulfilled his duty.

It was stated {by Amoraim} also:
Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi cited Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi: How do we know that one who hears is as if he has said? For it is written {the pasuk mentioned doesn't exist. This is likely a reference to II Kings 22:16}:

טז כֹּה אָמַר ה, הִנְנִי מֵבִיא רָעָה אֶל-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וְעַל-יֹשְׁבָיו--אֵת כָּל-דִּבְרֵי הַסֵּפֶר, אֲשֶׁר קָרָא מֶלֶךְ יְהוּדָה. 16 Thus saith the LORD: Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read;
Now did Yoshiyahu read them? Did not Shafan read them, for it is written {earlier, pasuk 10}:
house of the LORD.'
י וַיַּגֵּד שָׁפָן הַסֹּפֵר, לַמֶּלֶךְ לֵאמֹר, סֵפֶר נָתַן לִי, חִלְקִיָּה הַכֹּהֵן; וַיִּקְרָאֵהוּ שָׁפָן, לִפְנֵי הַמֶּלֶךְ. 10 And Shaphan the scribe told the king, saying: 'Hilkiah the priest hath delivered me a book.' And Shaphan read it before the king.
Rather, from here that one who hears is like he speaks.

In a place where it is the custom to double {pesukim}, he should double. To say it plain, he should say it plain. To bless after it {the lulav} he blesses. All is in accordance with the custom of the province.

{Succah 39a}
One who takes a acquires a lulav from his fellow on Sheviit {the sabbatical year} should get the etrog as a present for he is not permitted to purchase it on Sheviit.

They learn {in a brayta}: Rabbi doubles things in it. Rabbi Eleazar ben Pratya adds things in it.
What does he add?
Abaye said: He adds to double {verses} from אוֹדְךָ, כִּי עֲנִיתָנִי and below.

"To bless after it {the lulav}, he blesses":
Abaye said: They only said this regarding afterwards, but before it, it is a mitzvah to bless.
For Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: All commandments one blesses on them over leAsyatan.
What implies that this "over" is language of "before?"
Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak said: For Scripture states {II Shmuel 18:23}:
כג וִיהִי-מָה אָרוּץ, וַיֹּאמֶר לוֹ רוּץ; וַיָּרָץ אֲחִימַעַץ דֶּרֶךְ הַכִּכָּר, וַיַּעֲבֹר אֶת-הַכּוּשִׁי. 23 'But come what may, [said he,] I will run.' And he said unto him: 'Run.' Then Ahimaaz ran by the way of the Plain, and overran the Cushite.
Abaye said: From here {Bereishit 33:3}
ג וְהוּא, עָבַר לִפְנֵיהֶם; וַיִּשְׁתַּחוּ אַרְצָה שֶׁבַע פְּעָמִים, עַד-גִּשְׁתּוֹ עַד-אָחִיו. 3 And he himself passed over before them, and bowed himself to the ground seven times, until he came near to his brother.
And if you wish I will tell you from here {Michah 2:13}:
יג עָלָה הַפֹּרֵץ, לִפְנֵיהֶם--פָּרְצוּ וַיַּעֲבֹרוּ, שַׁעַר וַיֵּצְאוּ בוֹ; וַיַּעֲבֹר מַלְכָּם לִפְנֵיהֶם, וַה בְּרֹאשָׁם.
13 The breaker is gone up before them; they have broken forth and passed on, by the gate, and are gone out thereat; and their king is passed on before them, and the LORD at the head of them.
{Succah 41a}
Initially lulav was taken in the Temple seven {days} and in the country one.
When the Temple was destroyed, Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai established that the lulav be taken in the country seven as a remembrance to the Temple. And {he also established} that the day of waving {that they would wave the omer offering in the Temple} was entirely forbidden {to eat chadash}.

How do we know that we make a remembrance to the Temple? Rabbi Yochanan said: The verse states {Yirmiyahu 30:17}:
יז כִּי אַעֲלֶה אֲרֻכָה לָךְ וּמִמַּכּוֹתַיִךְ אֶרְפָּאֵךְ, נְאֻם-יְהוָה: כִּי נִדָּחָה, קָרְאוּ לָךְ--צִיּוֹן הִיא, דֹּרֵשׁ אֵין לָהּ. {ס} 17 For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they have called thee an outcast: 'She is Zion, there is none that careth for her.'
Thus we see that it requires derisha.

{Succah 41b}
The first day of Yom Tov of Succot which falls out on Shabbat, all the nation bring their lulavs {the day before} to the synagogue. The next day, each one recognizes his own and takes it,

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