Monday, February 20, 2006

Rif Pesachim 10a {Pesachim 35a continues ... 36a}


{Pesachim 35a continues}
But rice and millet, no.
From where do we know this?
Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish said, and so did they teach in the academy of Rabbi Eliezer ben Yaakov: For the verse states {Devarim 16:3}:

ג לֹא-תֹאכַל עָלָיו חָמֵץ, שִׁבְעַת יָמִים תֹּאכַל-עָלָיו מַצּוֹת לֶחֶם עֹנִי: כִּי בְחִפָּזוֹן, יָצָאתָ מֵאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם--לְמַעַן תִּזְכֹּר אֶת-יוֹם צֵאתְךָ מֵאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם, כֹּל יְמֵי חַיֶּיךָ. 3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for in haste didst thou come forth out of the land of Egypt; that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.
Things which become chametz one can satisfy his obligation with for matzot, to exclude these which do not become chametz but rather to a state of decay.

Rabba bar bar Chana cited Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish: dough which was kneaded with wine, oil, or honey, one is not liable karet on its chametz {if one eats it}. What is the reason of Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish? Because they are fruit juice, and fruit juice does not cause fermentation {chimutz}.

{Pesachim 36a}
They learnt {in a brayta}:
One should not knead the dough with wine, oil, or honey, and if he kneaded -- Rabban Gamliel says: It should be burnt immediately.
And the Sages say: it should be baked immediately.

Rabbi Akiva said: It was my week by Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi Yehoshua, and I kneaded the dough with wine, oil, and honey, and they did not say a word to me.

And although one may not knead with it, one may smooth the surface with it. This is according to the Tanna Kamma, but the Sages say that that which you may knead with you may smooth with, and that which you may not knead with, you may not smooth with.

And they agree that one may not knead the dough with lukewarm water.
This brayta, they establish in the gemara as referring to the second day of Pesach, but on the first day of Pesach, no, even according to Rabbi Akiva, because it is matzah ashirah {rich}.

And it makes sense to us like Rabbi Akiva, and the halacha is like him -- that on the first day, one needs lechem oni {poor man's bread} and so it is forbidden, but on the second day, in which we do not need lechem oni, it is fine -- for Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi holds like him, for he said to his son: On the first day, do not knead for me with milk. From then on, knead for me. And an latter version: On the first day, do not knead for me with honey. From then on, knead for me.

And it is certain that this brayta is speaking of oil with water, when speaking of "smoothing with oil," it is via water, in that they knead first with water, and they smooth it with oil. And the Tanna Kamma who forbids kneading permits smoothing, while the Sages forbid whether by kneading of by smoothing.

And had not Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi, who is an Amora,

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