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{Shabbat 50a continues}
he must tie [them] together {before Shabbat, thus indicating their purpose. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: He need not tie them together.
He {Rabba bar bar Chana} recited it, and he stated {regarding} it: The halachah is like Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel.
It was stated {by Amoraim}:
Rav said: He must tie [them] together.
And Shmuel said: He must intend [to sit upon them].
And Rav Assi said: If he sits upon them {before Shabbat}, though he had neither tied nor intended them [for sitting, it is well].
And the halacha is like Rav Assi, who said like this Tanna, that we learn {in a brayta}:
One may go out [into the street] with a wool tuft or a flake of Wool {both used as a dressing for a wound -- meanwhile, Tos. translates: a wig}. When? if he had dipped them [in oil] and tied them with a cord. However, if he did not dip them [in oil] and tie them with a cord, he may not go out with them; yet if he had gone out with them for one moment {lit. one hour} before nightfall {before Shabbat}, even if he had not dipped or tied them with a cord, he may go out with them [on the Sabbath].
Rav Ashi said: This also supports - from the brayta that states: One must not move straw [lying] upon a bed with his hand, yet he may move it with his body; but if it is fodder for animals, or a pillow or a sheet was upon it before nightfall, he may move it with his hand.
Rav Yehuda said: A man may bring a sack full of earth [into the house] and use it for his general needs.
Mar Zutra lectured in the name of Mar Zutra Rabbah: Providing that he allotted a certain corner to it. {which thus renders it muchan}
They learnt {in a brayta}: Utensils may be cleaned {rubbed} with anything, save silver vessels with white earth {a kind of chalk}.
{Shabbat 50b}
Rav Yehuda said: Powdered brick is permitted.
By way of explanation: to use to clean one's hands.
Rav Yosef said: Poppy pomace [scented] with jasmine is permitted.
Rava said: Crushed pepper is permitted.
Rav Sheshet said: Barda is permitted.
What is barda?
Rav Yosef said: [A compound consisting of] a third aloes, a third myrtle, and a third violets.
Rav Nechemia the son of Rav Yosef said: Providing that there is not a greater quantity of aloes, it is well. {for aloes work as a depilatory}
They inquired of Rav Sheshet: Is it permissible to bruise olives on the Sabbath?
{Rashi: May olives be bruised on a stone, which improves their taste? Ri: May one rub his face with olives, using them as a detergent? The Rif explains otherwise, as follows:}
By way of explanation, to wash his hands.
He answered them: Who permitted it then on weekdays?
(He holds [that it is forbidden] on account of the destruction of food.)
"R. ELEAZAR B. AZARIAH SAID: THE BASKET IS TILTED ON ONE SIDE AND [THE FOOD] IS REMOVED":
Rabbi Abba cited Rabbi Chiyya {our gemara: bar Ashi} who cited Rav {our gemara omits Rav}: All agree that if the cavity becomes disordered {its walls collapsing}, we may not replace [the pot], and in whether we fear lest the cavity become disordered they argue. Rabbi Eleazar holds we do fear, and the Sages hold we do not fear. And the halacha is like the Sages.
Rav Huna said: With respect to selikustha, if one put it in, drew it out, and put it in again, it is permitted; if not, it is forbidden.
{Jastrow: A fragrant plant used after meals in place of burnt spices. It was removed from its pot earth, its fragrance inhaled, and then put back.}
By way of explanation, selikustha is a bundle of spices, such as the chavatzelet haSharon {rose of Sharon} and the like, which one sticks in clay or moist earth so that they do not dry out.
And Rav Huna holds, and days that if he stuck it in on erev Shabbat, and removed it, and turned and stuck it in again, in order that its place be expanded so that when it is taken on Shabbat its furrow is not ruined - it is permitted to handle it on Shabbat, and if not, it is forbidden.
And the halacha is not like him.
And so too this that (Rav) Shmuel said: As regards the knife between the rows of bricks {Rashi: where it was inserted for safety -- but it would seem the Rif disagrees} if one inserted it, withdrew it, and reinserted it, it is permitted; if not, it is forbidden.
And the halacha is not like him.
For we {that is, Rav Katina} raise an objection to them from this that we learn {tnan}: if one stores turnips or radishes under a vine, provided some of their leaves are uncovered, he need have no fear
{Shabbat 51a}
not on account of kil'ayim, nor on account of the seventh year, nor on account of tithes
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