Thursday, June 16, 2005

Rif Shabbat 22b



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22b

{Shabbat 49a}
"WHEN THEY ARE MOIST":
It was a question to them: Naturally moist, or artificially moist?
And we conclude that we learnt {in the Mishna} naturally moist.
How can flocking be naturally moist?
In the case of wool plucked from between the flanks {of a living animal}.
And a {naturally} damp cloth?
In the case of- wool plucked from between the flanks.

{The Rif explains in Hebrew:}
And this is the wool which is between the flanks of the animal, which has permanent moisture which does not pass.

MISHNA:
WE MAY STORE {insulate} [FOOD] IN FRESH HIDES, AND THEY MAY BE HANDLED;
IN WOOL SHEARINGS, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE HANDLED.

WHAT THEN IS DONE? THE LID [OF THE POT] IS LIFTED, AND THEY [THE SHEARINGS] FALL OFF OF THEIR OWN ACCORD.
R. ELEAZAR B. AZARIAH SAID: THE BASKET IS LIFTED ON ONE SIDE AND [THE FOOD] IS REMOVED, LEST ONE LIFT [THE LID OF THE POT] AND BE UNABLE TO REPLACE IT.
BUT THE SAGES SAY: ONE MAY TAKE AND REPLACE [IT]

{Shabbat 51a}
IF IT [A POT] WAS NOT COVERED WHILE IT WAS YET DAY, IT MAY NOT BE COVERED AFTER NIGHTFALL.
IF IT WAS COVERED BUT BECAME UNCOVERED, IT MAY BE RECOVERED.
A CRUSE MAY BE FILLED WITH [COLD] WATER AND PLACED UNDER A PILLOW OR BOLSTER

{Shabbat 49a continues}
Gemara:
Rabbi Yochanan bar Achinai and Rabbi Yochanan bar Eleazar were sitting, and Rabbi Chanina bar Abba {our gemara: Chama} sat before them. And he sat and asked them: Did we learn {in the Mishna} FRESH HIDES belonging to a private individual, but those of an artisan, since he is particular about them may not be handled; or perhaps, we learnt about those of an artisan, and all the more so those of a private individual?
{Shabbat 49b}
And it comes out dependant upon {a dispute between} Tanaaim.

{Namely: Hides of a private individual may be handled, but those of an artisan may not: R. Jose maintained: Either the one or the other may be handled.}

And it is logical that the halacha is like Rabbi Yossi, who says: Either the one or the other may be handled.
For Rabbi Yossi, his father was a hide worker,
{our girsa in the gemara would have Rabbi Yossi himself be a hide worker.}
and it was clear to him that the artisans were not particular about them.

And so ruled Rav Sherira Gaon in the name of the "Rishonim" that the halacha is like Rabbi Yossi.

{Shabbat 50a}
"IN WOOL SHEARINGS, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE HANDLED":
Rava said: They learnt this only when one had not designated them for storing {=insulating}, but if he had, they may be handled. {The Rif follows here the Gemara's emendation of Rava's statement.}

It was stated {by Amoraim} also so:
When Rabin came {from Eretz Yisrael}, he cited Rabbi Yitzchak {our gemara: Yaakov} who cited Rabbi Yossi {our gemara: Assi} ben Shaul who cited Rav: They learnt this only where one had not designated them for storing; but if he had designated them for storing, they may be handled.

Rabbi bar bar Channa recited {tnei} before Rabbi Yochanan: If one cuts down dried branches of a palm tree for fuel and then changes his mind, [now intending them] for a seat

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