Tuesday, December 06, 2005

Rif Eruvin 19b {Eruvin 63b continues ... 65b}


{Eruvin 63b continues}
Haman {our gemara: Lachman} bar Ristak {who was a gentile}. They said to him: Will you rent us your domain {for Shabbat so that they could make an eruv}? He would not rent it to them. "Will you nullify your domain} to us?" He would not nullify to them.
{Eruvin 64a}
Rava said to them: One of you should go and ask him to borrow a place {within the house} on which you will put something, so that you {by becoming a tenant in the gentile's courtyard} become like his hired laborer or retainer, for Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: even his hired laborer or retainer may contribute on his {=the gentile's} behalf to the eruv, and it is sufficient.

Abaye said to Rav Yosef: What if there were five hired laborers or retainers {in the gentile's house, each of whom occupied a room in it, and one had forgotten to contribute his share in the eruv of the alley}?
He said to him: Even if they said the law of hired laborers and retainers to be lenient, do you think they spoke of hired laborers or retainers to be stringent?! {But rather, there is no problem.}

Gufa: {to return to the main text}
Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: even his hired laborer or retainer may contribute on his {=the gentile's} behalf to the eruv, and it is sufficient.
Rav Nachman said: How excellent a ruling is this!

And Rav Yehuda cited Shmuel: One who has drunk a reviit of wine should not pray {our gemara: should not render a legal ruling}.
Rav Nachman said: This ruling is not excellent, for until I drink a reviit of wine, my mind is not clear.

Rava said to him {=Rav Nachman}: Why does Master speak in such a manner? Did not Rav Acha bar Chanina state: What is meant by what is written {Mishlei 29:3}:

ג אִישׁ-אֹהֵב חָכְמָה, יְשַׂמַּח אָבִיו; וְרֹעֶה זוֹנוֹת, יְאַבֶּד-הוֹן. 3 Whoso loveth wisdom rejoiceth his father; but he that keepeth company with harlots wasteth his substance.

{where זוֹנוֹת is reread as zo naot = this is beautiful.}
Whoever says this {zo} ruling is beautiful {naeh} and this ruling is not beautiful, it is as if he loses the substance of Torah.
He {Rav Nachman} said: I withdraw.

Rabba bar Rav Huna said: One who is tipsy should not pray, but if he prayed, his prayer is a prayer. One who is intoxicated should not pray, and if he prayed, his prayer is an abomination. What is the definition of tipsy and what is the definition of intoxicated? He is considered tipsy if he is able to speak before the king {if compelled to do so}. He is considered intoxicated if he is unable to speak before the king.

{Eruvin 64b}
Rami bar Chama said: Walking a mil {after drinking} or any amount of sleep takes away the effect of the wine.
Rav Nachman cited Rabba bar Avuah: They said this where he had drunk {up to} a reviit, but if he drank more than a reviit, even more so, for {the walk on} the road tires him out and sleep intoxicates him even more {such that he is more affected by it}.

We do not pass by food {lying on the ground}.
Rabbi Yochanan cited Rabbi Shimon ben Yehotzadak: They only said this in previous generations, when the daughters of Israel had not resorted to witchcraft, but in later generations, when the daughters of Israel had resorted to witchcraft, we do pass by.

They taught {tana - in a brayta}: Whole loaves {of bread}, we may pass by; pieces, we do not pass by. {For only the former are utilized for witchcraft.}
And this that is it is written {Yechezkel 13:19}:

יט וַתְּחַלֶּלְנָה אֹתִי אֶל-עַמִּי, בְּשַׁעֲלֵי שְׂעֹרִים
וּבִפְתוֹתֵי לֶחֶם
לְהָמִית נְפָשׁוֹת אֲשֶׁר לֹא-תְמוּתֶנָה, וּלְחַיּוֹת
נְפָשׁוֹת אֲשֶׁר לֹא-תִחְיֶינָה: בְּכַזֶּבְכֶם--לְעַמִּי, שֹׁמְעֵי

19 And ye have profaned Me among My people for handfuls of
barley and for crumbs of bread
, to slay the souls that should not die, and to
save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to My people that
hearken unto lies.

{where crumbs is the same word as pieces}, there {in the pasuk} it refers to their wages {rather than what they use to bewitch}.
{Eruvin 65a}
They learnt {in a brayta}: One who is intoxicated, his purchase is a valid purchase and his sale is a valid sale. If he transgressed a sin whose punishment is death we administer the death penalty; if {one whose punishment is} lashes, we administer lashes to him. The general rule of the matter is that he is regarded as a rational, sober man in all his matters, except that he is exempt from prayer.

Rabbi Chanina said: They only taught this regarding the case where he has not reached the level of intoxication of Lot, but if he reached the level of intoxication of Lot, he is exempt from all of them.

{Eruvin 65b}
Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish and the students of Rabbi Chanina visited a certain inn while the {gentile} tenant was away {so they could not get him rent a place from him in order to make an eruv} but the {gentile} landlord was present. They said: It is permissible to rent from him {the landlord} a share {for eruv purposes}? In any instance where the landlord cannot terminate the lease {to the tenant}, there is no question to you that we may not rent from him {because he does not have the right to rent to another at the moment}. What is it a question to you? When he {the landlord} can terminate the lease, then what? {Do we say that} since he can terminate the lease we may rent from him, or do we say that as of now, he has not terminated the lease {and so we may not rent from him}? Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish said to them: We will rent, and when we come to our teachers in the South, we will ask them. When the came and asked Rabbi Apas, he said to them: You have done well that you rented.

Rabbi Chama {our gemara: Rabbi Chanina} bar Yosef, Rabbi Chiyya bar Abba, and Rabbi Assi visited a certain inn {and they prepared their eruv}. {The gentile owner's ownership of the inn presented no problem in terms of eruv because we was absent.} The gentile owner of the inn came on Shabbat. {Now, they would need to rent in order to make the eruv effective.} They said: How shall we now act? Is renting like establishing the eruv, in that just as the establishing of the eruv must be done while it is yet day {on Friday}, so too the renting must be done while it is yet day? Or perhaps renting

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