Thursday, April 27, 2006

Rif Pesachim 20a {Pesachim 101a continues; Berachot 59b; Pesachim 101b}



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20a

{Pesachim 101a continues}
And Shmuel is consistent with his opinion. For Shmuel said that kiddush is only in the place of the meal. What is the reason? For it is written {Yeshaya 58:13}:

יג אִם-תָּשִׁיב מִשַּׁבָּת רַגְלֶךָ, עֲשׂוֹת חֲפָצֶךָ בְּיוֹם קָדְשִׁי; וְקָרָאתָ לַשַּׁבָּת עֹנֶג, לִקְדוֹשׁ יְהוָה מְכֻבָּד, וְכִבַּדְתּוֹ מֵעֲשׂוֹת דְּרָכֶיךָ, מִמְּצוֹא חֶפְצְךָ וְדַבֵּר דָּבָר. 13 If thou turn away thy foot because of the sabbath, from pursuing thy business on My holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, and the holy of the LORD honourable; and shalt honour it, not doing thy wonted ways, nor pursuing thy business, nor speaking thereof;
In the place that you call {=make kiddush}, there should be the delight {=meal}. One might think that these words are about {moving} from house to house, but from corner to corner {in the same house}, no.
Rav Chanan {our gemara: Anan} bar Tachlifa said to them: Many times I stood before Shmuel, and even from the ground to the roof he would make {a new} kiddush.

And even Rav Huna holds that kiddush is only in the place of the meal. And even Rabba holds that kiddush is only in the place of the meal, for Abaye said: when we were in the house of Master {=Rabba}, he said to us: Eat something here, lest when {=by the time} you enter your houses your lamps become upset, and you will not make kiddush and will not eat {our gemara's girsa is quite different}, and with the kiddush of here you will not have fulfilled, for kiddush is only in the place where you eat.

And so is the halacha.

And according to both Rav and Shmuel, wine {=borei peri hagafen, if you want to drink wine in another place} you have not fulfilled.
And there is a brayta in accordance with them, for they learnt {in a brayta}: {Pesachim 101b}:
changing of wine, he need not bless {anew}; changing of place, he needs to bless {anew}.

And so is the halacha.

{Berachot 59b}
Rav Yosef bar Abba cited Rav: Even though they said that changing of wine, he need not bless {a new borei peri hagafen}, he does however bless hatov vehameitiv.

{Pesachim 101b resumes}
Rav Iddi bar Avin sat before Rav Chisda, and Rav Chisda sat and said in the name of Rav Huna: This that we said that changing of place, he needs to bless {anew}, they only taught that regarding from house to house, but from corner to corner, no.
Rav Iddi bar Avin said to him: so did they teach in the brayta of bar Henik [Bach: emend to: the academy of Rav], and some say, in the brayta of the academy of bar Henik, like you.

And furthermore, Rav Chisda sat and said in his own name: this that you said that a change of place requires a {new} blessing, we only say this regarding things which do not require a blessing after them in their {same} place, such as fruit and wine, but things which require a blessing after them in their place, such as bread and types of grain, he need not bless haMotzi {anew}.

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